JOE McGINNISS

Well, you certainly know how to write a cliffhanger…

I will be waiting, but not patiently, for this revelation from your mysterious source. Thanks for “going there” and helping bring the ridiculous story of Tri-G’s birth to people who have never paid it any attention.

She is getting desperate planting these stories even in Salon! Last nights “E” True Hollywood. She did not have him.
She knows the truth is coming.
She is having her flying monkeys attack blogs that talk about Babygate claiming they are attacking “TriG” the #trigScrew is attacking anyone about Babygate.
I hope this all blow up and out. The Truth need to come out about Sarah Palin and her Lies!!!
Everything about her is a lie!

Why would Wesley Loy question Palin about a hoax pregnancy before she had Trig? I know there where rumors that Bristol was pregnant at that time but I thought the hoax birth didn’t take off big time till after McCain picked Palin as VP. I just don’t buy it that she showed him her round belly.

September, huh? It’s going to be a long Summer.

Interesting that they are male reporters that are satisfied w/ looking at a bump covered by fabric. There was a story on GMA just this morning about a teen who faked a pregnancy as a social experiment. Everyone at school believed she was pregnant for 6 months, including her own siblings who live with her. Sarah only had to keep up the ruse for 6 or 7 weeks.

And the whole doctor thing is just an out-and-out lie. No doctor would put themselves under that kind of risk. They could lose their insurance. It has happened to doctors who are unfortunate enough to be the doctor on-call when a woman has waited too long to go to the hospital. If a baby dies, the jury awards millions to the parents, even when they did not follow their doctor’s advice. By agreeing to deliver at a small regional hospital under that scenario, the doctor would have not only risked her own career, but the hospital’s licensing.

Trig is her son, but she did not give birth to him.

If she did deliver Trig at Mat Su they SHOULD lose their licensing as they were not set up to care for twins let alone a premmie, DS, cardiac challenged baby. Why has no one bothered to go after them and force the issue? They’d have to deny the birth in order to save themselves. No HIPPA law covers what doesn’t happen.

I’m with the Doctor: “Sarah Palin is weird, but she’s not weird enough to fake a pregnancy.” I think that’s why most people want to let this story go – there’s something creepy about prying into a woman’s decisions surrounding the birth of her child. We want to give Sarah Palin the right to maintain a private life. My own sense is that the impending birth of a special needs child was scary for her – what if the child came out looking like a freak? She NEEDED privacy surrounding the event, especially as a public person.

It’s too bad that she had to spin so many stories after the fact. That’s what is very weird.

The same reckless abandon that Palin exhibited in flying while well over 7 months pregnant and choosing not to inform the cabin crew is the real issue here. Any hint of an ‘impending’ birth of a pre-term infant, much less a child known to have DS, is cause to seek immediate medical advice and a phone call to a doctor thousands of miles distant doesn’t really count. If the ‘truth’ about this pregnancy emerges and let’s even say that she proves she was pregnant, let’s hear her explain why she felt justified in flying before being seen by a medical professional in Texas, then driving right past a major hospital in Anchorage equipped to handle potential life threatening issues for the child (hole in heart, suckling problems) and then taking an hour’s ride by car to a small hospital not prepared for this type of birth. To top it all off, the small hospital was then willing to pass this child around in a non-sterile setting so quickly for a convenient photo-op despite his need of continuing medical observation. Not sure which is worse for her, a ‘faked pregnancy’ or willful disregard for the possible endangerment of a newborn child.

this comes at the end of a week that saw Huffington Post refuse to post Geoffrey Dunn’s article about the controversy, citing their “stated policy of not publishing conspiracy theory posts.” That’s a “policy,”

Geoffrey’s article doesn’t subscribe to a “conspiracy theory,” it writes about a recent spate of articles upon the subject of TriG’s birth, some of which come from a point of view HuffPo apparently takes to be a “conspiracy theory.” Rather than advance such a theory, what Dunn does is look very closely at how both that theory and others concerning Palin’s conduct around the alleged time of TriG’s birth have been handled by the press since early 2008. Dunn’s essay is quite comprehensive, and ends with this:

There is one person who can put an end to the Trig matter immediately and instantly, and that is Sarah Palin. Before she takes another step in what has been a hapless bid to position herself for a run for the presidency, the American media should demand that Palin produce full and conclusive evidence of Trig’s birth and parentage. It’s that simple.

Once that step is taken, then the American media needs to break its “spiral of silence” about Palin’s “wild ride” from Texas to Alaska and to demand direct answers from her about the decisions she made, the actions she took and what motivated her to do so. Anyone who examines Palin’s own story closely will come to no other conclusion that she was “reckless beyond measure”–as Andrew Sullivan so succinctly put it–and entirely unqualified to hold higher office in these challenging and demanding times.

That is Dunn’s summation of what his article was about. Clearly, HuffPo’s action was way over the line on this. Possibly, it is just another of many signs that Arianna was a sellout to the powers-that-be all along, like some of us who declined offers to write there beginning in late 2008 felt at the time.

So true. I was thinking about that earlier today, in fact. It occurred to me that a sitting Governor, asked by a reporter if she had been leaking amniotic fluid (and her father had said so which was the reason for the question), would be completely within her rights to say: I’m not going to comment on that. It IS personal.

Sarah, however, did no such thing. I’m not sure if it was because she was thrown off by the question (not knowing that Chuck had either repeated a lie she told him or had done some embellishing of his own), or because the pathological liar in her could not resist the opportunity to LIE on a grand scale.

Regardless of the outcome, it’s a tail’s we win head’s she looses scenario. If she is in fact the bio mother, then she displayed (at best) extremely poor judgement in the hrs preceding the birth and a centrfudge can’t produce enough spin to overcome the questions that will be asked to her directly by “the media” in total: not just faux and those outlets and people sympathetic to and support of her. On this basis alone (lack of judgement) she is unqualified to a leader of any import and therefore unelectable.
If it turns out that the child is not hers, then she lied and maintained that lie to the point where it has now become uncontrolable. On this basis she is unelectable and a decietful, cunning liar to boot.
The simple solution to this problem that she has is to release her medical records and the childs birth certificate but she won’t which only adds to the speculation. I’m sure we all remember the sorcerers apprentice (no Trump pun intended). She is the Disney version only she’s Minny Mouse.

We should also mention that to get on the airplanes (more than one), hours of flying, and leaking or having leaked amniotic fluid, knowing that delivery could happen, could be imminent (or the need to deliver to prevent infection) could not only endanger the life of the unborn child but that of the mother. My niece lost twin girls in the 6th month … very, very sad … and her life was in jeopardy. She was hospitalized, had to have blood transfusions, IV’s, and constant care for well over two months. Possibly delivering a baby, a special needs baby, on an airplane, or in the terminal of a busy airport, would not be a picnic for mother or baby or anyone around her.

Mr. McGinniss, I certainly hope you win a Pulitzer Prize by exposing Sarah Palin as the fraud and hoax that she absolutely and unequivocally is.

The real question is what did McCain, the RNC and other Republicans know and when did they know it?
This could be another Watergate.

There is a lot more at stake than just $palin’s credibility. Those who backed her – media and other corporations, McCain, the GOP are all involved in hushing this up. I wonder how much they paid these so-called “journalists” to spout their nonsense.

Joe, it’s a long time till September. She/they can do a lot more damage in the meantime. Does the US have that much time?

If you examine the details of The Wild Ride – each of them, in isolation, doesn’t seem like it’s a big deal. It’s when you add it all up and step back that the very disturbing picture emerges.

She’s 45 y/o and she’s pregnant AND it’s her fifth child AND the child has DS AND Palin goes into labour prematurely AND then she phones her doctor instead of going to a hospital AND she boards 2 planes back to AK all the while by-passing 2 more hospitals on the way AND drives an hour from Anchorage to Mat-Su Regional.

The part that clinches it for me is the part where she drives from Anchorage to Mat-Su. She’s IN Alaska at this point. The future fish picker is guaranteed to be born IN Alaska. Yes, I get Laura Novak’s point that we who live in urban areas find it difficult to believe that she would go to a regional hospital – but remember at this point Palin is already CLOSER to the Anchorage hospital with a NICU facility, yet she STILL gets in a car, during snowy conditions and has HER HUSBAND, not EMTs, drive her an HOUR to Mat-Su. It makes NO SENSE. Is she weird? Yes! But this string of decisions is PSYCHOTIC.

Palin either faked the pregnancy OR she was reckless beyond measure. Both very good reasons to ask MORE questions of a person who clearly wants to be POTUS.

As the saying is. “It will all come out in the wash.”

I don’t much care at this point. Whoever protects her is poisoned. She has a touch like Midas for gold for herself and none for her protectors.

So be it.

I’m spending my time in a more productive way. working on a novel for my own amusement, and it isn’t about Palin.

How interesting these male reporters are so convinced all of a sudden. I knew she was lying the minute I read HER words describing what happened in Texas and after. Have any of these geniuses stepping into the debate all of a sudden ever traveled to Alaska and actually interviewed many people?? In some of these rebuttals it seems like they haven’t read everything available ( even from Sarah herself) nor have they looked at every photo. It’s very shoddy reporting, if you can even call it that! It’s obvious that the Palins are working overtime to kill this story. Could it be any more obvious?
Joe, I cant believe we have to wait until September.

AussieGal, I agree with you. But this doc I talked to DID say that it’s one thing to live like that in a rural area, something that I personally (he was pointing to me) might not get. BUT he does say, if you are a VIP or even a potential VP, why wouldn’t you chose more and better. Why wouldn’t you sort of upgrade to a more sophisticated environment and doctor for this baby? Privacy might be the answer. And that word can go both ways, with both scenarios.

I just don’t think the conversation is over. I think that more and more people are wondering what is the truth. And that’s not bad that more people are wondering.

Great Joe! Thanks for updating!

I think the Trig issue is just a bright shiny object, sort a prophylactic distraction in advance of what’s about to rain down on her head – and all those who made a deal with this devil. Think about it: hundreds of emails, the Game Change movie, Baileys’s book, Dunn’s book, and then this updated (as of June, woo-hoo!) book by Mr. McGinniss. She’ll WISH that it was just this ridiculous Trig back-and-forth tussle going on then. But shame on Loy and every piss-poor excuse for a journalist that’s either blessed, advanced or allowed these recollections and opinions to pass for “proof”.

There have been and still exist, anecdotal stories from people who know her (primarily the carpool people) who state that she had a tubal ligation after she had Piper.

Now all of a sudden she has a pregnancy?

The story itself is ridiculous – the whole Wild Ride is a fantasy our of that non-functioning paranoid brain of hers. But it’s all a lie –

Why would she claim a pregnancy when she told everyone she was “so sore from this tubal I had after I delivered Piper”?

C’mon reputable newspeople (????) – women who have their tubes cut and cauterized DO NOT HAVE “oops” pregnancies.

There are way too many questions in this story – and in spite of what all these journalists say, the questions have not been answered.

If Sarah Palin was indeed pregnant, her Reckless Ride endangered her life, Trig’s life, and the life of EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON BOARD the two Alaska Airlines flights she took on April 17, 2008 because she risked going into labor and forcing the flight to make an emergency landing. If Sarah Palin was pregnant, Todd Palin was a willing participant in her reckless narcissism.

His lack of concern that day speaks volumes. She was not pregnant and there was nothing for him to be worried about.

Then why did she tell everyone she had a tubal following her pregnancy with Piper????

Taking it back to that level …. the pregnancy makes NO sense.

Then she forgets what city he is born in and declares “he was born in Anchorage” during a speech last September.

None of what she says makes sense. But in many ways, that is exactly how she operates. Scattered lies and chaos. This is not normal behavior.

IF she did have that tubal she did NOT have that baby. Tubes are cut and cauterized. NO way NO how – IF she had the tubal. If not, then she lied about the tubal.

She’s lied about everything – she’s even confused herself.

Sorry Tiger, but we knew the moment she first opened her mouth at the Republican Convention and spewed forth venom, that she wasn’t qualified to be anywhere near the vice presidency.

The only shocking thing about this whole fiasco is that it has taken so long to come to light.

It is highly unlikely that Sarah the Sociopath would CARE about anyone other than herself. We have never seen her say or do a kind thing for another human being.

That’s all well and good to say that she should have her privacy. And, all or most of us would have been glad to give her privacy if she had NOT shoved her kids in our faces. If she wanted privacy, she should NOT have hauled her kids all over hell and back.

But if she needed privacy, her actions don’t make sense, either. Why get on a plane, as someone upthread commented, if there’s a real risk of giving birth, publicly and without any medical support, on that plane? Why, for that matter, fly to Texas at 7-7.5-8 months (depending on which version of the story she tells) pregnant if she wanted or needed privacy? Why not ask for privacy, rather than telling multiple and exaggerated versions of the story on numerous occasions?

I have a file folder filled with medical records, bills, and insurance claims from my pregnancies and deliveries, not to mention their birth certificates. And, of course, pictures of me, exhausted, holding my kids moments after they were born as well as the word of my midwife and delivery nurses who saw my babies emerge from my body (whom I would authorize to state, in no uncertain terms, that fact).

If anyone doubted my pregnancies or deliveries or that my children were my biological offspring, I’d produce that file and tell them to eff off. You would think Sarah Palin would relish the chance to do that.

Laura~
Was the pediatric specialist aware of the fact that the Mat-Su hospital was not licensed or equipped to handle even the birth of twins?

Joe,

Have you checked into the connection between Loy and a $palin staffer/babysitter? That might explain his sudden “memory”.

When I had my second child we lived more than two hours from the hospital in a national park that required a fairly treacherous ride through mountainous terrain. Because I didn’t want to have to send my eldest daughter to neighbors so early in the morning (around 5 am) I waited around, took a bath, and we finally left around 7:15 am. I had been in labor about 4 hours. I remember when my water broke (in the truck with me in full-blown labor in the back seat), and it was about 30 minutes before the birth. By the time we got to the hospital, I was pushing that baby out whether I wanted to or not. As a matter of fact, the only reason she wasn’t born already was because of a well-placed elbow. After 6 hours’ labor total, my daughter was delivered by the charge nurse about 8 minutes after we arrived at the hospital. With my first, labor was more than 14 hours.
In other words, ain’t NO WAY I would have been getting on a plane to travel from Texas to Alaska, and I hate Texas! There is nothing this woman can say that will convince mothers that this wasn’t crazy and reckless. No woman would take the chance of having that scenario take place in the middle of a full airplane full of strangers thousands of feet in the air.

I’d like to know how all these people who believe that Palin is Trig’s Mom answer the question as to why did McCain’s campaign staff scrub the internet of ALL pics of Palin taken during the time she was allegedly pregnant? They weren’t trying to hide anything, they were hiding the lack of anything substantial in $arah’s abdomen. There was NOTHING there, matching another part of her anatomy, and they wanted to make sure that anybody who had questioned those pics could no longer do so. However, it only served to fuel the fire. You don’t remove the pics if you have nothing to hide, nor do you change the hard drive in Levi Johnston’s sister’s computer if there was nothing incriminating in either place.

We’d do well to remember Dan Rather’s downfall with forged documents, if a birth certificate with a date different from April 18 shows up. A conspicuous forgery with information that is legitimate would further muddy the waters.

I actually don’t believe that “The Wild Ride” ever took place. I think that Mrs. Todd Palin could not resist the opportunity to further embellish her frontier, tough pioneer woman facade.

I predict that when the truth emerges, Scarah will initially try to blame that whole wild ride story on her ghost writer.

Ghost writer high jinx will then ensue with ghost writer vehemently denying and hopefully producing her and Scarah’s taped conversations, etc… (rubbing my hands together in anticipatory glee!) VHTG

She is an expert at using men. Her appearance at the door during the campaign in a towel. Telling a man of the clothe that she was talking to him in the shower. Even pregnant she brings sexual overtones and hints and innuendos to her interactions with men.

Palin is a sick cookie in every way.

Hi Joe,

please take a look at my “debunking” of Justin Elliott’s “definite debunking” of Trig Trutherism:

http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/04/justin-elliotts-definitive-debunker-of.html

They chose the hospital where $P had the BOD stacked with her friends and supporters. Stacked to the point that they stopped allowing abortions to be done at the hospital.

It would have been VERY easy for her to get special privileges from her friends, whether they knew WHY she asked for them or not. After the fact, though they may not have liked what happened, are they going to out her? Would HIPAA even ALLOW then to out her?

This whole scenario is too pat to have been thought up by just the the schemer who once was GINO.

yeah I think that plump baby was a standin. I have every picture of Trig ever published AND several private photos that were emailed to me (attained from family members or close friends). “Triggybear” looks like the Trig we know today and he fits in with the growth pattern.

Thank you so much, Joe!

Of course, pretending that people are “suddenly” concluding that Trig Birtherism is a bunch of crazy nonsense is another big part of Joe’s game here. Nobody is “Suddenly” coming around to that conclusion, but if Joe accurately acknowledges that people have been correctly labelling this a bunch of crazy, unsupported, made-up BS from the get-go then he’ll sell less books to people who’re, quite frankly, too stupid to remember or look up what happened two and a half years ago, and all too willing to let Joe tell them instead.

It really isn’t the least bit complicated.